Comments on: Pain Relief Is In The Clouds http://painhealthnews.com/archives/22 Information and motivation for people in pain Thu, 01 Jul 2010 11:59:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Bonnie Boots http://painhealthnews.com/archives/22/comment-page-1#comment-39 Bonnie Boots Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:40:54 +0000 http://painhealthnews.com/?p=22#comment-39 Thanks, Mike, that's very generous of you. EFT has already been mentioned several times on this blog, and will certainly continue to be a topic. EFT stands for Gary Craig's "Emotional Freedom Technique." I took the certification program for EFT three years ago and have made it a cornerstone of my own health care. When you first hear about EFT, it sounds like absolute balderdash. When you try EFT and feel it working, it changes your entire concept of what you're made of and how it all works. A free ebook teaching the technique (and vast files of testimonials) are available at Gary Craig's website, http://www.emofree.com . EFT is easily learned from the ebook, but having someone talk you through the 5-minute technique adds that extra personal dimension that makes such a difference in learning. Thanks, Mike, that’s very generous of you. EFT has already been mentioned several times on this blog, and will certainly continue to be a topic. EFT stands for Gary Craig’s “Emotional Freedom Technique.” I took the certification program for EFT three years ago and have made it a cornerstone of my own health care. When you first hear about EFT, it sounds like absolute balderdash. When you try EFT and feel it working, it changes your entire concept of what you’re made of and how it all works. A free ebook teaching the technique (and vast files of testimonials) are available at Gary Craig’s website, http://www.emofree.com . EFT is easily learned from the ebook, but having someone talk you through the 5-minute technique adds that extra personal dimension that makes such a difference in learning.

]]> By: mike http://painhealthnews.com/archives/22/comment-page-1#comment-38 mike Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:17:25 +0000 http://painhealthnews.com/?p=22#comment-38 Hi Kevin This a long shot but it could be what you are looking for. I have recently discovered EFT and have used it on various family members and friends with astonishing results. It is based around the acupuncture meridians and gentle tapping. Sounds crazy but it is actually very logical. Here's the deal, if you are willing, I will take you through the process by telephone. It won't cost you a bean as I am not after your money, it could change your life, it would be good for me and I live in the UK too. You have nothing to loose except a few minutes of your time. Don't think too long about it mate. Mike PS You can find me at this address - www.efttappingandme.com Hi Kevin
This a long shot but it could be what you are looking for.
I have recently discovered EFT and have used it on various family members and friends with astonishing results.
It is based around the acupuncture meridians and gentle tapping. Sounds crazy but it is actually very logical.
Here’s the deal, if you are willing, I will take you through the process by telephone.
It won’t cost you a bean as I am not after your money, it could change your life, it would be good for me and I live in the UK too.
You have nothing to loose except a few minutes of your time.
Don’t think too long about it mate.
Mike
PS You can find me at this address – http://www.efttappingandme.com

]]> By: Kevin Lyle http://painhealthnews.com/archives/22/comment-page-1#comment-35 Kevin Lyle Sat, 17 Jan 2009 21:23:55 +0000 http://painhealthnews.com/?p=22#comment-35 Hi Guys, Thank you , I really mean that, some of your suggestions are new to me so I will be looking into them all, some of them I have already got underway or I have tried without success. I know I'm not alone, its just that sometimes you become immursed with pain & it has the effect of forcing you to look inwards & thus making you feel alone. As you all say there is no right answer here, Everyone feels the pain in different ways, with some feeling it much worse than others. The treatments are many & varied too. In the UK we have the National Health Service, which is really good, but has linited resources & a huge demand placed upon it. Luckily I also do have private Medical Insurance and I find I have to juggle between the two. But once again, it is good to know that there are others out there (I don't mean suffering in pain) but with knowledge of pain ,it's causes & various treatments because what works for one person does'nt necessarily mean that it will work for another. All we can do is keep trying & moving forwards. Once again I would like to thank you all,Josh, Trish, Ken, Cory & of course Bonnie. ps. I feel a little better already. I will keep in touch. Kevin Hi Guys,
Thank you , I really mean that, some of your suggestions are new to me so I will be looking into them all, some of them I have already got underway or I have tried without success. I know I’m not alone, its just that sometimes you become immursed with pain & it has the effect of forcing you to look inwards & thus making you feel alone.
As you all say there is no right answer here, Everyone feels the pain in different ways, with some feeling it much worse than others.
The treatments are many & varied too. In the UK we have the National Health Service, which is really good, but has linited resources & a huge demand placed upon it. Luckily I also do have private Medical Insurance and I find I have to juggle between the two. But once again, it is good to know that there are others out there (I don’t mean suffering in pain) but with knowledge of pain ,it’s causes & various treatments because what works for one person does’nt necessarily mean that it will work for another. All we can do is keep trying & moving forwards.
Once again I would like to thank you all,Josh, Trish, Ken, Cory & of course Bonnie.
ps. I feel a little better already. I will keep in touch.
Kevin

]]> By: Bonnie Boots http://painhealthnews.com/archives/22/comment-page-1#comment-24 Bonnie Boots Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:30:42 +0000 http://painhealthnews.com/?p=22#comment-24 Kevin, you can see by the number of people offering suggestions here that you are not alone. Pain is a universal human experience. And sadly, the lack of appropriate resources for pain care seem to be universal, as well. The internet is a great gift to us all, allowing us to find and share information, help and support. I went to four chiropractors before I found the one that was right for me. The first one was a total nut case who put me off chiropractic altogether. 2 years later, in agony, I tried again, going through two more doctors who were too enthusiastic about "upselling," the art of inflating a patient's bill by pushing all sorts of over-priced supplements and add-ons to treatment. The 4th chiropractor I tried turned out to be a gem, truly dedicated to healing and the welfare of his patients. I bless the day I found him. I had much the same experience with MD's. It just goes to show how persistent you have to be in seeking good care. PERSIST, Kevin! There is help for you, waiting for you to discover it. Let us know what you find. Bonnie Boots Kevin, you can see by the number of people offering suggestions here that you are not alone. Pain is a universal human experience. And sadly, the lack of appropriate resources for pain care seem to be universal, as well. The internet is a great gift to us all, allowing us to find and share information, help and support.
I went to four chiropractors before I found the one that was right for me. The first one was a total nut case who put me off chiropractic altogether. 2 years later, in agony, I tried again, going through two more doctors who were too enthusiastic about “upselling,” the art of inflating a patient’s bill by pushing all sorts of over-priced supplements and add-ons to treatment. The 4th chiropractor I tried turned out to be a gem, truly dedicated to healing and the welfare of his patients. I bless the day I found him. I had much the same experience with MD’s. It just goes to show how persistent you have to be in seeking good care. PERSIST, Kevin! There is help for you, waiting for you to discover it. Let us know what you find.
Bonnie Boots

]]> By: aura http://painhealthnews.com/archives/22/comment-page-1#comment-23 aura Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:57:28 +0000 http://painhealthnews.com/?p=22#comment-23 You asked for some suggestions what I have found helps is seeing light in the effected area in forgiveness, love, peace and gratitude or letting go with forgiveness of any old stored anger because that can make things feel tentimes worse. The other is to use like a wet suit fabric to keep in the warmth to the joints I don't know what you call it in america all these aid pain relief. When I find pain is getting too much I use my imagination or inner understanding to bathe where the cells and pain is in light, forgiveness, peace, love and gratitude it Just like having taken pain relief for me. The other is to let go of what ever I am angry about in forgiveness. Aura Sunshine You asked for some suggestions what I have found helps is seeing light in the effected area in forgiveness, love, peace and gratitude or letting go with forgiveness of any old stored anger because that can make things feel tentimes worse.
The other is to use like a wet suit fabric to keep in the warmth to the joints I don’t know what you call it in america all these aid pain relief.

When I find pain is getting too much I use my imagination or inner understanding to bathe where the cells and pain is in light, forgiveness, peace, love and gratitude it Just like having taken pain relief for me.

The other is to let go of what ever I am angry about in forgiveness.
Aura Sunshine

]]> By: Cory http://painhealthnews.com/archives/22/comment-page-1#comment-21 Cory Mon, 12 Jan 2009 08:40:37 +0000 http://painhealthnews.com/?p=22#comment-21 Kevin - hello and I hear you. I am so sorry you are having to live with this. I also deal with nerve pain and other types of pain. It originates from my disc. It is there 24/7 for me and it is a question of dialing down the intensity to keep myself from going out of my mind. Not one thing works for me. It's a whole bunch of stuff I do depending on what works best at that moment. Here are some possible ideas. I hope you are able to find a formula that will work for you. Meds: anticonvulsant meds in combo with other meds. It took a lot a trys of various meds to find a doable combination. Work with a chronic pain management doc/specialist that understands how to address the different types of pain. Not all docs understand pain; especially nerve pain. Avoiding certain chairs. Using a cushion for certain type of chairs. Hot packs on the disc area of low back and legs. Bed buddy type with the rice inside. Microwaveable. Lacrosse balls and miracle balls to work on trigger points in the low back muscles. Body buddy (is similar to a theracane) to work on trigger points. All kinds of relaxation cd's and meditation cd's. Hot tub Hot bath with epson salts Chiropractor Deep tissue massage Stretching Attend chronic pain support group- friends who understand, pain friends can guide you to best doctors and treatments, pain friends can help you to avoid the doctors that are not helpful. The pain group can expose you to the latest pain treatments and coping techniques. Distraction methods for high pain day: -cloud watching like mentioned on this blog. -visit the dog park. -visit petsmart and watch the dogs in the doggy day care. -call a friend -rent a movie. -watch my funny movies from DVD collection. -cry (release) -sleep if possible -loud music -soothing music -read jokes and funny stories online if I can get into a somewhat comfortable position in bed or on the couch with a laptop. - watch videos on youtube or stupidvideos.com -made a list of 100 reason why I am grateful even in spite of the pain. (How I have grown as a person)This was not easy to do at first. Lots of depression and anger to get through first. -use my flare kit. It's a box I put together in advance to have ready for pain flares. It is kind of an emergency kit for a pain flare. It has all kinds of things in it to comfort myself. Funny movies, favorite tea, favorite blanket, hot packs, books, favorite magazine, favorite photos, favorite relaxation cds etc. Anything to comfort yourself. Tens units and muscle stim units aggravated my nerve pain but work really well for others. I looked into the spinal cord stim. Was not for me. However, one guy in our pain group did get an scs and it helped him tremendously. Just remember that everyone is different. Some will do great with a treatment and others won't. It truly is trial and error. I have tried and failed with a lot of medical treatments and unconventional treatments. The key is to keep trying until you find a formula that works best for you. Also always weigh the risk versus benefit ratio to guard against making yourself worse. With the spinal cord stim, consider asking the doctor for the name of the sales rep. Ask the sales rep for names of patients you can speak with that are doing well with the scs. Also ask the rep for names of the people that did a scs trial and did not continue to get the scs implanted. I wanted to know about the failures as well as the successes. Keep trying until you get some relief. May comfort be yours!!! Cory Kevin – hello and I hear you. I am so sorry you are having to live with this. I also deal with nerve pain and other types of pain. It originates from my disc. It is there 24/7 for me and it is a question of dialing down the intensity to keep myself from going out of my mind. Not one thing works for me. It’s a whole bunch of stuff I do depending on what works best at that moment. Here are some possible ideas. I hope you are able to find a formula that will work for you.

Meds: anticonvulsant meds in combo with other meds. It took a lot a trys of various meds to find a doable combination. Work with a chronic pain management doc/specialist that understands how to address the different types of pain. Not all docs understand pain; especially nerve pain.

Avoiding certain chairs. Using a cushion for certain type of chairs.

Hot packs on the disc area of low back and legs. Bed buddy type with the rice inside. Microwaveable.

Lacrosse balls and miracle balls to work on trigger points in the low back muscles.

Body buddy (is similar to a theracane) to work on trigger points.

All kinds of relaxation cd’s and meditation cd’s.

Hot tub

Hot bath with epson salts

Chiropractor

Deep tissue massage

Stretching

Attend chronic pain support group- friends who understand, pain friends can guide you to best doctors and treatments, pain friends can help you to avoid the doctors that are not helpful. The pain group can expose you to the latest pain treatments and coping techniques.

Distraction methods for high pain day:
-cloud watching like mentioned on this blog.
-visit the dog park.
-visit petsmart and watch the dogs in the doggy day care.
-call a friend
-rent a movie.
-watch my funny movies from DVD collection.
-cry (release)
-sleep if possible
-loud music
-soothing music
-read jokes and funny stories online if I can get into a somewhat comfortable position in bed or on the couch with a laptop.
- watch videos on youtube or stupidvideos.com
-made a list of 100 reason why I am grateful even in spite of the pain. (How I have grown as a person)This was not easy to do at first. Lots of depression and anger to get through first.
-use my flare kit. It’s a box I put together in advance to have ready for pain flares. It is kind of an emergency kit for a pain flare. It has all kinds of things in it to comfort myself.
Funny movies, favorite tea, favorite blanket, hot packs, books, favorite magazine, favorite photos, favorite relaxation cds etc. Anything to comfort yourself.

Tens units and muscle stim units aggravated my nerve pain but work really well for others.

I looked into the spinal cord stim. Was not for me.

However, one guy in our pain group did get an scs and it helped him tremendously.

Just remember that everyone is different. Some will do great with a treatment and others won’t. It truly is trial and error. I have tried and failed with a lot of medical treatments and unconventional treatments. The key is to keep trying until you find a formula that works best for you. Also always weigh the risk versus benefit ratio to guard against making yourself worse.

With the spinal cord stim, consider asking the doctor for the name of the sales rep. Ask the sales rep for names of patients you can speak with that are doing well with the scs. Also ask the rep for names of the people that did a scs trial and did not continue to get the scs implanted. I wanted to know about the failures as well as the successes.

Keep trying until you get some relief. May comfort be yours!!!

Cory

]]> By: Maarit http://painhealthnews.com/archives/22/comment-page-1#comment-20 Maarit Mon, 12 Jan 2009 07:33:29 +0000 http://painhealthnews.com/?p=22#comment-20 Hello Kevin! I got an e-mail from Bonnie where she asked if I had a some advise to give you...I wanted to recommend EFT but someone had already written about it.I highly recommend it!there are people who have been healed from MS,diabetes,allergies,phobias,migrains,depressions,anxieties....you name it!it's easy.you can do it your self,anywhere and anytime. I also recommend that you'll check out www.TheReconnection.com. this is total new healing modality. it has nothing to do with energyhealing. it can do miracles! it did with my neck. I have been in two car accidents.first one in 1980,second for about 8 years ago. I lived with daily migraines.last spring I attended dr.Pearl's seminar i Stockholm and after that my neck healed almost completely! I can get musclepain if I sit whit my laptop several hours,but i think it's normal.please,go to the webbside and read Dr Pearl's story.there are reconnective healers in Britain.Never give up! with best wishes,Maarit from Sweden. Hello Kevin! I got an e-mail from Bonnie where she asked if I had a some advise to give you…I wanted to recommend EFT but someone had already written about it.I highly recommend it!there are people who have been healed from MS,diabetes,allergies,phobias,migrains,depressions,anxieties….you name it!it’s easy.you can do it your self,anywhere and anytime. I also recommend that you’ll check out http://www.TheReconnection.com. this is total new healing modality. it has nothing to do with energyhealing. it can do miracles! it did with my neck. I have been in two car accidents.first one in 1980,second for about 8 years ago. I lived with daily migraines.last spring I attended dr.Pearl’s seminar i Stockholm and after that my neck healed almost completely! I can get musclepain if I sit whit my laptop several hours,but i think it’s normal.please,go to the webbside and read Dr Pearl’s story.there are reconnective healers in Britain.Never give up! with best wishes,Maarit from Sweden.

]]> By: himagain http://painhealthnews.com/archives/22/comment-page-1#comment-19 himagain Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:28:05 +0000 http://painhealthnews.com/?p=22#comment-19 Bonnie, I received your email re helping someone with back pain in the same mail session as one from another person thanking me for the "extremely successful" results with his lower back pain. Note: this is not medical advice! I have no franchise to practise medicine - only common sense and experience.Especially with lower back pain! There is a key in where the pain originates: if lower back, it is highly likely to be kidney-oriented. (Yellow system according to the traditional Chinese system). The combination of extremely poor Western diet coupled with deadly - seriously - deadly forced medication like the terrible mixture of Chlorine and Fluoride in the water supplies, is an incredible toxic load on the human "cleaning" system. Any "chronic" pain sufferer should be able to simply adopt the following tactics and see improvement very rapidly. Get rid of ongoing toxicity by eliminating all forms of fluoride and chlorine from your environment. ALL - Fluoride is one of the most toxic substances on the planet and is even absorbed easily via the skin. Then, most importantly, alkalise your diet. In simple terms: Give up everything you "like" and eat only natural foods. If it is white, (flour, bread, sugar) or comes out of a box, it is out. Learn to cook and eat at home. No more restaurant or esp. takeout food! Tough to do, but beats having the pain. Bonnie, I received your email re helping someone with back pain in the same mail session as one from another person thanking me for the “extremely successful” results with his lower back pain.
Note: this is not medical advice! I have no franchise to practise medicine – only common sense and experience.Especially with lower back pain!
There is a key in where the pain originates: if lower back, it is highly likely to be kidney-oriented. (Yellow system according to the traditional Chinese system).
The combination of extremely poor Western diet coupled with deadly – seriously – deadly forced medication like the terrible mixture of Chlorine and Fluoride in the water supplies, is an incredible toxic load on the human “cleaning” system.
Any “chronic” pain sufferer should be able to simply adopt the following tactics and see improvement very rapidly.
Get rid of ongoing toxicity by eliminating all forms of fluoride and chlorine from your environment. ALL – Fluoride is one of the most toxic substances on the planet and is even absorbed easily via the skin.
Then, most importantly, alkalise your diet. In simple terms:
Give up everything you “like” and eat only natural foods. If it is white, (flour, bread, sugar) or comes out of a box, it is out.
Learn to cook and eat at home.
No more restaurant or esp. takeout food!
Tough to do, but beats having the pain.

]]> By: Josh http://painhealthnews.com/archives/22/comment-page-1#comment-18 Josh Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:23:31 +0000 http://painhealthnews.com/?p=22#comment-18 Hi Kevin, I have a ruptured disc that bulges and presses on my nerves at random times... it happened for a couple of weeks over the Christmas period which was fun. Laying on the floor can help me but I usually have to knock my self out with prescriptions so I have a slight understanding of what you must be feeling. The best part is I'm a delivery driver - 2 tonnes of potatoes hand delivered in a morning probably doesn't help my case! I wanted to ask if you have heard of EFT. Suspend all/any predjudices and have a look at this (i'm not financially involved in anyway but I have watched it work with people I know): http://www.healthynewage.com/blog/eft-emotional-freedom-technique-video/ http://www.emofree.com/articles.aspx?id=13 http://www.amazon.com/EFT-Back-Pain-Gary-Craig/dp/1604150327 Google back pain and gary craig - the testimonials are pretty amazing. It might sound a bit nuts for you but hey, if I was in your situation I'd give anything a shot right? Nothing to lose. I'm not saying it will work for you, just trying to help out by throwing it into the mix. Hope you can sort yourself out, best wishes. Hi Kevin, I have a ruptured disc that bulges and presses on my nerves at random times… it happened for a couple of weeks over the Christmas period which was fun. Laying on the floor can help me but I usually have to knock my self out with prescriptions so I have a slight understanding of what you must be feeling. The best part is I’m a delivery driver – 2 tonnes of potatoes hand delivered in a morning probably doesn’t help my case!

I wanted to ask if you have heard of EFT. Suspend all/any predjudices and have a look at this (i’m not financially involved in anyway but I have watched it work with people I know):

http://www.healthynewage.com/blog/eft-emotional-freedom-technique-video/

http://www.emofree.com/articles.aspx?id=13

http://www.amazon.com/EFT-Back-Pain-Gary-Craig/dp/1604150327

Google back pain and gary craig – the testimonials are pretty amazing. It might sound a bit nuts for you but hey, if I was in your situation I’d give anything a shot right? Nothing to lose.
I’m not saying it will work for you, just trying to help out by throwing it into the mix.

Hope you can sort yourself out, best wishes.

]]> By: Kevin Lyle http://painhealthnews.com/archives/22/comment-page-1#comment-17 Kevin Lyle Sun, 11 Jan 2009 22:07:05 +0000 http://painhealthnews.com/?p=22#comment-17 Hi Bonnie, Thankyou again for your very helpful & positive comments, I understand what you mean regarding standard General Practice Doctors, not knowing or understanding that alternative therapies that are available now. I have used a Chiropractor in the past & I know you tried a few before settling on the right one for you, I have only ever used the one & found he wasn't improving my condition, however to be fair to him I was in agony & at a point where one of my disc's had already protruded out & was crushing the nerve. I also carried on working, driving around to various homes to arrange Homebuyer Mortgages. I was a partner in a firm of advisors & felt I had to keep going otherwise I would let them down.Unfortunately this action alone has probably made the situation much worse than it could have been, if I had stopped to allow the body to heal. But that's not uncommon is it. I will take your advice & seek out another chiropractor & I will also look into the hypnosis website you have kindly recommended to me. I will be pleased to let you know how I get on with it. I would also be grateful for any other useful comments from other readers/members of your blog. And Thank You once again Bonnie, I really do appreciate your comments even though your words brought tears to my eyes. I dont know why, maybe it was just relief knowing that someone out there may be able to help & had been through what I am going through right now. I have previosly searched the internet locally for any support groups etc but there doesn't seem to be any. Then I came across your blog/website at the opposite side of the Atlantic which just shows how small the World really is. Best Wishes to you Bonnie Kevin Hi Bonnie,
Thankyou again for your very helpful & positive comments, I understand what you mean regarding standard General Practice Doctors, not knowing or understanding that alternative therapies that are available now.
I have used a Chiropractor in the past & I know you tried a few before settling on the right one for you, I have only ever used the one & found he wasn’t improving my condition, however to be fair to him I was in agony & at a point where one of my disc’s had already protruded out & was crushing the nerve. I also carried on working, driving around to various homes to arrange Homebuyer Mortgages. I was a partner in a firm of advisors & felt I had to keep going otherwise I would let them down.Unfortunately this action alone has probably made the situation much worse than it could have been, if I had stopped to allow the body to heal. But that’s not uncommon is it.
I will take your advice & seek out another chiropractor & I will also look into the hypnosis website you have kindly recommended to me. I will be pleased to let you know how I get on with it. I would also be grateful for any other useful comments from other readers/members of your blog.
And Thank You once again Bonnie, I really do appreciate your comments even though your words brought tears to my eyes. I dont know why, maybe it was just relief knowing that someone out there may be able to help & had been through what I am going through right now. I have previosly searched the internet locally for any support groups etc but there doesn’t seem to be any. Then I came across your blog/website at the opposite side of the Atlantic which just shows how small the World really is.
Best Wishes to you Bonnie
Kevin

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